J'ai écouté ,ce matin, sur les ondes de radio France inter(ou int.) que l'O.T.A.N. peut effectuer les frappes sur la Libye ou cela lui semble bon,c-à-d en dehors des zones de combat ,par exemple des villes ou il n' y a que des révolutionnaires libyens(par exemple ,à la frontière égyptienne ou dans le désert au sud ), ou encore de tirer sur des civils ... ,sans l'approbation des pays qui lui ont donné une autorisation ,donc ces pays assument le côté politique,de faire cette tâche et en particulier (la France, G.B. et U.S.A.). Il me semble intéressant de préciser que les décisions politiques ne relèvent pas de l'O.T.A.N. mais seules les mises en applications ,sur le terrain,de ces décisions politiques prises aux niveaux des États(Fr,GB,USA) et en conformité avec les résolutions de l'O.N.U. L'O.T.A.N. est un instrument et ne peut ,en aucun cas ,se substituer aux États qui constituent cette organisation, au niveau politique. Et par voie de conséquence, l'O.T.A.N. ,ne peut rien faire sans l'approbation politique des États qui constituent cette organisation. Tout le monde a en mémoire , le déroulement de la première guerre de Golfe, où la maison blanche de Bush père tenait le côté politique sans intervenir sur le terrain qui appartenait complétement au général Schwarskopf et pour envahir l'Irak le politique (qui est aussi le juriste qui respecte le droit international et donc les résolutions de l'O.N.U.)à Washington lui interdisait de faire cette incursion et le général qui commandait la coalition ne l'a pas fait ,de même dans une autre époque, pour le général Mc Arthur. Donc l'O.T.A.N. ,exécute la tâche sur le terrain (et tout le terrain) mais avec un maître derrière , en l'occurrence les politiques des États membres. RE14HGMT18
Bedeur is our frenchman he will translate better later. Here's what I came up with.
The post is entitles: "a correction on NATO"
Quote:I listened this morning on France Inter radio waves (or int.) NATO can carry out strikes on Libya or that it looks good, ie outside of combat zones, for such as cities or it does is that Libyan revolutionary (for example, or the Egyptian border in the desert south) or to shoot at civilians ... Without the approval of the country that gave him permission, so these countries bear the political side to this task and in particular (France, UK and USA). It seems worth mentioning that political decisions are not within NATO but only implemented on the ground, these policy decisions at the state (Fr, GB, USA) and in accordance with resolutions UN, NATO is an instrument and can not in any way, replace the constituent states of this organization, at the political level. And consequently, NATO can not do anything without the approval of the policy states that make up this organization. Everyone has in mind, the course of the first Gulf War, where the White House of Bush father was the political side without intervening on the ground that belonged to General Schwarskopf completely to invade Iraq and the political (which is also the lawyer who respects international law and therefore the UN resolutions) in Washington forbade him to do this incursion and the general who commanded the coalition has not done well in another time for General MacArthur . So NATO is running the task on the ground (and all the ground) but with a master behind, namely the policies of Member States. RE14HGMT18
More or less I think he's attempting to point out the fallacies of the real NATO. And with his internet postings being largely centered around political sites and forums in which he tries to get his HP Pavilion 5000 fixed, I strongly think he's barking up the wrong tree. We aren't affiliated with the ground forces sir, we just play the game. Try it out (cybernations.net)
Funny thing, I can't even tell if he's criticizing the intervention in Libya or not. Looks like he's simply commenting the situation based on what he heard on the radio this morning, so there's nothing interesting to translate. I guess he googled "nato" and "forums" without even looking at who we are.
Au cas où tu comprennes mal l'anglais, on n'a rien à voir avec un site politique, on fait partie d'un jeu sur internet dont Devo t'as donné l'adresse. Soit tu décides de jouer et tu seras le bienvenu, soit tu peux laisser tomber. Capisce Mister?
Thats what I understood so far. I mean my french skills are not that bad! ( I could read everything out!11oneoneeleven)
Anyway, it's kinda funny to be honest. Of course NATO has its own forums and all members and generals have to register.
Welcome here Rachid. As Devo pointed out, you won't find much about the real world NATO here, but you're welcome to try out the game.
@ Bedeur: "c-à-d" ... and here I hoped the plague of text message abbreviation was contained in the English language.
I can't understand it very well without a dictionary, but reading colloquial French is a treat.
I'm sad at French despite it being one of our national languages.
